All Scientists are Sceptics ~Professor Bob Carter

Whenever someone asserts that a scientific question is “settled,” they tell me immediately that they don’t understand the first thing about science. Science is never settled. Dr David Deming

Perhaps the most frustrating aspect of the science of climate change is the lack of any real substance in attempts to justify the hypothesis ~Professor Stewart Franks

A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin - See more at: http://thepeoplescube.com/lenin/lenin-s-own-20-monster-quotes-t185.html#sthash.aTrSI3tG.dpuf
A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin - See more at: http://thepeoplescube.com/lenin/lenin-s-own-20-monster-quotes-t185.html#sthash.aTrSI3tG.dpuf
A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin - See more at: http://thepeoplescube.com/lenin/lenin-s-own-20-monster-quotes-t185.html#sthash.aTrSI3tG.dpuf

Tuesday, 13 November 2012

Carbon Fools' Day



Carbon Fools Day.
by Viv Forbes
Australian Senate passes Carbon Tax Bill - Nov 8 2011
-     a date that will be remembered as Carbon Fools Day.


13 November 2012.



A pdf print-ready copy of this article with all illustrations can be downloaded from:


Just a year ago, Australia joined the ranks of Carbon Fools by passing the Carbon Tax Bill (actually 18 separate bills called the “Clean Energy Bills”.) Now the same fools who introduced it are among the front rank of volunteers for carbon suicide by trumpeting their intention to sign Kyoto 2.

Barack Obama and Julia Gillard are founding members of the Carbon Fools Club, and have learned tricks from one another on how to betray the electorate without getting punished.

Before the election, Gillard said “There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”. Her Treasurer confirmed the promise. After the election, she changed her mind and introduced it. Now she is proceeding to bribe enough of the electorate into acceptance of the betrayal.

In America, there was little if any mention of a carbon tax by Obama during the election campaign. But before the celebratory election victory hangovers were gone, the headlines read “Obama May Levy Carbon Tax to Cut U.S. Deficit”.  No more green flummery about saving the planet – just the truth – “we need the money”.

We face troubling times, and the next year will be critical.

Obama cannot stand for re-election, and the Democrats will probably lose the next presidential election. So they have four years to introduce their green utopia in such a way that no future administration will dare to undo the mess. In Australia, the Green/Labor coalition may not survive the next election either, so they too have an urgent need to cement their anti-industry, anti-mining, anti-farming, anti-fishing, green energy and carbon-tax agenda in just 12 months.

The American election shows us there is no guarantee that Gillard will lose the next election. And the green-ants within the Coalition may undermine Tony Abbott’s promise to abolish the carbon tax. Naturally there will also be a claque of vested interests opposing the loss of their green feather beds, and they will be supported fully by the ABC in Australia (just as the BBC supports climatism and those who benefit from it in the UK). So there is a big battle ahead for Australia and the US.

More Reading:

There will be no Carbon Tax in Australia:

There will be a Carbon Tax in Australia:

We need a Carbon Tax in America:

BBC Bias:


The Future for “Carbon Sense”.

In the hostile environment of rampant climatism, the task for “Carbon Sense” and our allies is challenging.

We see our main goal as changing the climate of public opinion through the presentation of unpopular and inconvenient facts. We do this by writing submissions, letters, opinion pieces, media releases and newsletters.

We are being noticed. I recently attended the annual Braford Beef Breeders dinner in Queensland – we had not attended a meeting for years, but as this one was nearby in Ipswich, we decided to attend. It was amazing the number of people who came up and said “Hello Viv, I keep reading your great letters in the local paper, keep it up.”

We have a large mail list and do not insist that people pay subscriptions in order to stay on our mail list. (Some may even be prepared to pay to get off!) We have kept faith with those few people who support us with subscriptions, but the job is done by very few people, on very small budgets. Our opponents in the bureaucracy and the NGO’s have budgets in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And unlike them, we do not have tax exempt status, we do not pose as a charity, we get nothing from governments (in fact we pay GST and income tax on subscriptions) and we seem to have missed out on the flood of money we are accused of getting from Big Coal and Big Oil. We could of course continue the fight until we use up our limited human energy and financial resources. But a little help from supporters is very much appreciated, and encourages us to keep going. (But only if you can afford it, and think it is worthwhile.)

Send subscriptions and contributions to: Carbon Sense, MS 23, Rosevale via Rosewood, Qld, 4340, Australia.  Or we can advise bank details for electronic transfers.

Is “Carbon Sense” just supporting Big Coal?

Here is an extract from a consistent media critic in regional NSW (who incidentally appears to be a government employee and has the title (which he did not reveal in his letter): “Advisory Officer, Climatology”.) 
QUOTE: “Viv Forbes recently presented yet another poorly thought through effort, this time attempting to support the coal industry that he a part of . . .”

And my answer: 

“P is right that I have long experience in the carbon industries – both coal and oil/gas. That is all public knowledge, never hidden. But I spent my childhood on a dairy farm at Wheatvale, then worked for the government, explored for metals, worked as an investment analyst, maintained life-long grazing interests and now spend my semi-retirement on a small full time grazing property at Rosevale. I am a non-executive director and minor shareholder of a small coal explorer (which incidentally will benefit from Asian demand for Australian coal if foolish politicians send our big energy intensive industries to Asia). But I have NEVER been paid to represent the views of the coal industry, unlike many climate alarmists who are paid by tax payers to spruik the anti-carbon views of the government and the green extremists.

“P may care to check out the views of the real paid coal industry lobbyists, the Queensland Resource Council. They are opposed to my views in most critical areas.

“They support carbon capture and burial – I do not. They promote the view that man-made carbon dioxide has a significant and detrimental effect on climate – I do not. And Mr Kloppers, the CEO of Australia’s biggest coal producer, BHP, supported a carbon tax – I do not.

“No P, I do not represent big coal interests – I stand up for consumers, tax payers, employees, shareholders and those devoted to science and logic in determining climate and energy policies.  I am proud to do that.”

It follows that much of what we say about the anti-carbon campaign will automatically be a defence of those industries wrongfully and deliberately harmed by climate alarmism – chiefly coal, oil, forestry, cement, steel, the livestock industries and all who use the products of these industries.


Are They Fair Dinkum?

Our green guards continually demand that we use less carbon fuel in order to reduce global warming. They say “the science is settled”.

If the science is settled, we do not need a costly climate-study industry of super-annuated bureaucrats and grant-addicted academics – give the staff some real work, stop the grants, switch off the computers and air conditioners, sell the coffee machines, and quietly close the doors.

If there is consensus on the dangers of man-made global warming, there should be nothing more to discuss. Why do we need to burn tanker-loads of carbon fuel sending regiments of officials, politicians and journalists to 5-star world climate conferences every few months?

If politicians were fair dinkum about reducing carbon emissions, surely they would set an example and ban all air travel by politicians and public servants. And they could reduce the consumption of transport fuels if they ceased promoting and attending circuses, games, expos and car rallies? And if livestock emissions are a real concern, surely they would replace beef and lamb on Parliamentary menus with hydroponic lettuce and bean sprouts? And to save the world, surely they would relocate to their electorates, conduct debates using tele-conferencing, sell the government limousines, hop on a bike and see first-hand the damage being done by their high-cost policies? 

While they ignore their own scare-mongering, we know they are not fair dinkum.

Cyclone Sandy – “never let a good disaster go to waste”.

As usual, the climate alarmists have outdone themselves in describing Cyclone Sandy which recently hit the US coast and New York. Naturally they claim it is yet another example of the many climate disasters we will face if we do not repent of our deadly carbon sins and perform penance by paying our carbon tax penalty.

But it was not the world’s deadliest cyclone and probably broke no records. The main difference is that today many more people now live along the coasts in the cyclone alleys of the world, so there is more damage to humans and their infrastructure than ever before.

For some facts about cyclone records and climate lies see:


Wind Farms and Wind Bags

“Wind farms are like bad politicians:  
Make a lot of noise, cost a lot of money, 
A blight on the landscape, bloody inefficient, 
And there's far too many of 'em.”

Feedback from JC, a reader of “Carbon Sense”.


Harnessing Wind Power and Wind Bags Cartoon used with permission from:http://www.andysrant.com/cartoons-by-steve-hunter/Cartoon produced by Steve Hunter: http://stevehunterillustrations.com.au/Home.html



Agenda 21 for Dummies 
(the UN agenda for all of us for the 21st century)

Carbon dioxide plant food? 

Those who don’t believe that carbon dioxide is a plant food should look at this experiment which anyone could reproduce:  
http://myweb.cableone.net/carlallen/Greenhouse_Effect_Research/CO2%20Enrichment%20Experiment.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC1l4geSTP8

The Last Word – by their words we shall know their agenda

Here is a small selection of quotes on “Climatism” from a great new resource of quotes, compiled by Steve Goreham:

The real agenda:

“If you ask me, it’d be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy because of what we would do with it.”
- Amory Lovins, environmentalist, Mother Earth News, Nov.-Dec. 1977

“Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.”
Dr. Paul Ehrlich, Anne Ehrlich, and Dr. John Holdren, Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, 1970, p. 323

“The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.”- Jeremy Rifkin, environmentalist, Los Angeles Times, Apr. 19, 1989

Peak energy:

“Coal is a portable climate.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson, US author, 1860

“Oil production should peak out around the world in the early 1990s…”- James Schlesinger, former US Energy Secretary, Time Magazine, Apr. 25, 1977

“We are not running out of oil and gas. We are running into oil and gas. Predictions of peak oil and gas are not only being made for the wrong year and decade, but also for the wrong century.”
- Dr. Robert Bradley, Institute for Energy Research web site, July 7, 2011

Follow the money:

“He [Al Gore] impressed us all at Deutsche Bank Asset Management. We invited him to an internal meeting in April 2007 during which we discussed the issue of climate change extensively. A few months later, he received the Nobel Peace Prize for his commitment. We then created a fund that invests in companies that position themselves as climate-neutral. Within two months almost 10 billion dollars flowed into this fund. Can you imagine? 10 billion! There has never been such an overwhelming success.”

- Kevin Parker, Director of Global Asset Management, Deutsche Bank, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Nov. 15, 2010

Misuse of science and manipulation of data:

“Al Gore likes to say that mankind puts 70 million tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere every day. What he probably doesn’t know is that mother nature puts 24,000 times that amount of our main greenhouse gas—water vapor—into the atmosphere every day and removes about the same amount every day. While this does not ‘prove’ that global warming is not man-made, it shows that weather systems have by far the greatest control over the Earth’s greenhouse effect, which is dominated by water vapor and clouds.”

- Dr. Roy Spencer website, “Global Warming and Nature’s Thermostat,” January 28, 2008

“We have discovered that the warming in New Zealand over the past 156 years was indeed man-made, but it had nothing to do with emissions of CO2—it was created by man-made adjustments of the temperature.”

- New Zealand Climate Science Coalition web site, Nov. 25, 2009
Here is where to find this great collection of quotes on Climatism:http://www.climatism.net/quotes-on-climate-change-environment-and-energy/

Authorised by:
Viv Forbes
Rosevale    Qld    Australia




“Carbon Sense” is a newsletter produced by the Carbon Sense Coalition, an Australian based organisation which opposes waste of resources, opposes pollution, and promotes the rational and sustainable use of carbon energy and carbon food.

Please spread “Carbon Sense” around.

For more information visit our web site at www.carbon-sense.com
Literary, financial or other contributions to help our cause are welcomed.
Chairman Viv Forbes MS 23, Rosewood   Qld   4340   Australia.   info@carbon-sense.com


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