Wednesday, 7 January 2015

Alarmist in denial.

There is a mind-set among the Alarmists. They will not consider data that rubbishes the AGW hoax; they deny science and yet, they bestow the offensive term "deniers" on the Realists.

The worst comes out of these latter day deniers in the blogosphere and on the social media. Usually they display their utter ignorance. When their ignorance is pointed out to them, they spit venom.

One recent example was a post on Facebook by an Alarmist/Latter Day Denier.

To display his ignorance he made some big bloopers; eg

How closely does temperature follow CO2?

Well, actually the rise in atmospheric CO2 FOLLOWS the rise in temperature.

From New Scientist: (link)

Climate myths: Ice cores show CO2 increases lag behind temperature rises, disproving the link to global warming

From Jo Nova: (link)

Carbon (dioxide) follows temperature in the Vostok Ice Cores

In the 1990′s the classic Vostok ice core graph showed temperature and carbon (dioxide) in lock step moving at the same time. It made sense to worry that carbon dioxide did influence temperature. But by 2003 new data came in and it was clear that carbon lagged behind temperature. The link was back to front.

Our Facebook Fooled Alarmist then lists some items of which he says we Realists are in "denial:"

  • CO2 is a nutrient, not a pollutant
  • There is no global warming. It ended 18 years ago
  • Al Gore is a saint in the religion of AGW
  • We can't switch from fossil fuels; they won't run out, and the alternatives don't work
  • Alternatives cost too much, and they take funds away from starving people in Africa.
  • What do we do at night? (I  sleep, what do you do?)
  • I believe in climate change; the climate is always changing
  • Species are always dying, and there are always storms and droughts
  • As long as oil is there to run my car, I don't care about the future
  • Science is not certain and subject to revision, so therefore AGW isn't true
Our Latter day Denier does not believe that CO2 is a nutrient. Gee, that's turning real science on its head!

Carbon Dioxide (link - pdf)

One of Life’s most Essential Nutrients

Carbon dioxide is a nutrient as well as a product of respiration and energy production in the cells and its lack or deficiency is of itself a starting point for different disturbances in the body. It is very interesting to note that in comparison with most of the Earth’s geological history we live today in a world that is in a state of relative carbon dioxide starvation, especially for optimal plant growth; just ask the commercial tomato growers who use enhanced levels of carbon dioxide in their greenhouses to expedite crop growth.
Next, our Latter Day Denier denies the data from Satellites by denying the 18 year Warming hiatus.

Just cover your eyes, stuff your ears with cotton wool and scream LA-DE-DAH-DE-DAH at the top of your voice so that you don't see the latest data; don't hear the latest data and remain ignorant in your denial.

Then he says that we realists deny that "Al Gore is a saint in the religion of AGW." Gee, there are many on the Alarmist side who have realised that Gore is not a saint. Just take one example. The Ice Core Graphs (one above - more at Jo Nova) show that temperature rises before the rise in atmospheric CO2. Of course, to show the correlation you need to show the graphs together.

Latter Day "Saint" Al Gore must have known that, to show the graphs together, would have blown his AGW hoax apart so he separated the graphs. He lied and cheated. Some "Saint."

Alternatives cost too much, and they take funds away from starving people in Africa.

Bjorn Lomborg, who is a believer in the AGW scam, believes the carbon (dioxide) cure costs more than the illness (link)
THE economic cost of tackling climate change with known technologies would be three times higher than taking no action, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s own reports, Danish academic Bjorn Lomborg said ....
I believe in climate change; the climate is always changing.
So this Latter Day Deniers does not believe that climate has changed since time began? I suppose he denies that there have been glacials and interglacials. 

Species are always dying 

Yep, I don't see many dinosaurs around now; no mammoths....

there are always storms and droughts

Surely our Latter Day Denier cannot believe that storms and droughts are late 20th Century phenomena?  Strange critters these real deniers!


  1. Geoff, it no wonder people think you sceptics are nuts when you make stupid comments like "researching alternative fuel sources takes funding away from starving people in Africa".

    I can remember watching Etheopians starve to death 30 years ago, long before any serious research into alternative fuel sources. To suggest millions of people die every year as a result of research is out right insulting and will not help your cause.

    1. Anonymous, thank you for that! It just shows that you are in denial.

      As Bob Carter wrote in "Taxing Air" - "Effectively, the climate change debate amounts to putting modern industrial societies on trial for crimes against the climate in a kangaroo court of peer-reviewed science; developing countries are innocent, though denied development.

  2. Time to face the fact that fossil fuel has made a few people on this plant mega rich with little regard to developing nations. Maybe if those Etheopians had gas reserves on their land the rest of the wester world may have paid a bit more attention, kind of like, oh,I don't know, the Middle East maybe?


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