Friday, 27 April 2012

Sea Level Rally Gosford Waterfront 27/4/12 UPDATED

Gosford Council could scrap sea level rise notifications (LINK)

GOSFORD Council is set to do a back-flip on sea level rise notifications on property documents and residents couldn’t be happier.
Councillors have called for a report on the implications of removing the contentious notifications on the S149 (5) planning document.  This follows months of community outrage in the face of escalating insurance premiums and plummeting property prices.
Coastal Residents group president Len Gibbons said members were pleased the council had taken the first step in a “more reasonable” approach to the situation. “It was good to see that all the councillors were in favour of the move,” Mr Gibbons said.
         Mr Gibbons (gray-haired) can be seen in the left of the third photo below taking a photo of Pat Aiken

Residents create tide of protest against sea level rise claims.  2 May 12 

Hundreds of Central Coast residents rallied at Gosford waterfront on Friday to protest the handling of the sea level rise issue by Gosford Council and the state government.
Organised by the Coastal Residents group, the protesters assembled at Burns Park and marched through Gosford, with brief stopovers at the offices of Robertson Federal Labor MP Deb O’Neill and Gosford Council chambers. They called on Gosford Council to remove notifications on S149/5 certificates for properties likely to be affected by sea level rise.
They also demanded the state government repeal amendments to the Coastal Protection Act. “This whole sea level rise issue is a hoax,” group secretary Pat Aiken told the crowd. “This is an overreaction to a sea level rise prediction which is not even relevant.”
Professor Robert Carter said a sea level guage at Fort Denison, which had shown a rise of only 4mm over the past 20 years, should be the guide. “The councils are taking global figures provided by the United Nations when they should be looking at the facts in their own area,” he said.
 Original Report:

A crowd of around 450. I did a head count in Mann Street as the rally moved from Gosford Railway station to Gosford Waterfront. As usual, media reports reported less.
It should be noted that data show that 
Approaching local MP Deborah O'Neill's electoral office.
Despite some urging, she did not come out to address the crowd.
Pat Aiken addresses crowd outside Gosford City Council Offices.
Despite some urging, not one councillor came out, although some peeked from upper windows.
However, Wyong councilindependants Greg Best and Doug Eaton both spoke at the rally.
Professor Bob Carter does some last minute editing of his address.
See Thank Heavens for Bob Carter.
You can't park there, Malcolm Roberts. Council and SES only

NBN Video report can be found here.

Pre-rally ad in Central Coast Express Advocate:-
Pat Aiken and Len Gibbons lead the protest against sea level rise notifications.
Pat Aiken and Len Gibbons lead the protest against sea level rise notifications.


By Vimcent Gray

APRIL 27th 2012

Sea level surprise in New Zealand

Posted on April 26, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Ian Wishart writes in Investigate Daily:

Century old map throws new doubt on climate change sea level claims

A new book on the history of New Zealand has inadvertently stirred the climate change debate by revealing a near zero sea level increase over the past century.

The book, The Great Divide, includes a 100 year old map of Cloudy Bay lagoons in New Zealand, drafted back in 1912 to show the location of 20 kilometres of canals dug with wooden spades by ancient Maori.

However, when the 1912 map is shown alongside a satellite image of the same location from Google Earth, it reveals not only the startling accuracy of the original map (drafted at a time when aerial photography did not exist) but also a stunning lack of Pacific Ocean encroachment on the narrow shoal linking the lagoons to the sea.

The shoal is comprised of rock and pebbles, making it an ideal weathervane for sea level increase as it’s less prone to erosion than shifting sands.

Even the narrowest and lowest part of the bar, marked with a black squiggle on the 1912 map, remains the same in 2012.

The Great Divide goes on sale this week, and among its revelations is confirmation that a massive comet-strike into the ocean off New Zealand’s southern coast caused a 220 metre high tsunami that may have been responsible for erasing evidence of human habitation in early New Zealand.

This information merely confirms what I showed in my Newsletter No 285  which shows that there is no change in sea level around New Zealand in recent years.

Vincent Gray
Wellington 6035

"To kill an error is as good a service as, and sometimes better than, the establishing of a new truth or fact."  ~ Charles Darwin.

Carbon Credit Forests - the CO2.con

 By Carbon Sense's Viv Forbes

28 April 2012.

A print-ready copy of this issue of "Carbon Sense" can be downloaded from:

CO2Australia boasts of planting three million carbon credit trees. This is "just the beginning" of a new bubble industry, the CO2.con.

This bubble is set to inflate rapidly. To offset just one day of Qantas operations, CO2 promoters must plant more than 200,000 trees in permanent forests covering 130 hectares. How much land is required to offset all Australian power stations, industry and transport?

Yes these trees will consume carbon dioxide. However CO2 levels today are well below what is ideal for plant growth. While they are growing strongly, these trees will suck the gas of life from the atmosphere, competing strongly with nearby crops and plant life for the traces of carbon dioxide remaining.

Then as the trees mature, growth stops. The aging forest just sits there, some trees growing, some dying and net carbon sequestration ceases. It becomes a sterile shrine to the green religion whose main impact on the biosphere is providing a haven for feral animals and noxious weeds.

Green spruikers claim that they only use land not suitable for anything else. Wrong! Every bit of Australia not covered by road, cities, parks or deserts can support crops, timber-getting or grazing animals. Carbon-credit forests gnaw away at this national land asset every year.

Moreover, CO2.con investors, like all speculators, want quick returns. Their quick return demands rapidly growing trees in arable country - deserts and salt pans are uneconomical. Thus the wheat/sheep belt is shrinking.

No one can demonstrate any climate or environmental benefit from the CO2.con.

Forcing consumers and taxpayers to fund this large scale permanent land sterilisation is clearly unsustainable. All Australians fund this destruction via increased prices for electricity, cement, steel, air tickets and rail fares, and reduced land for food production. The carbon tax will increase their burden.

Like all bubble industries, the CO2.con industry must end in tears, and the sooner it ends the better.

 Vested Interests in the Climate Debate
A personal response by Viv Forbes to several attacks in the media

It seems that whenever global warming alarmists have no supporting evidence or logic, they resort to name calling using terms such as "vested interests".

Warmists claim that earth's climate is controlled by man-made carbon dioxide, mainly from coal and oil. A huge climate industry has been constructed on this flimsy foundation. Is Australia best served if we base energy policies solely on uninformed or emotional opinions from rock stars, lawyers, economists, union leaders and the climate industry? Surely it is sensible to also listen to scientists and engineers with training and experience in the origin, history, chemistry, geology, physics, extraction, utilisation and waste products of coal and oil and the behaviour and role of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? Why is all government industry "pure" and all real industry "suspect"? There are venal people and those promoting vested interests everywhere.

Another tedious slur is that those who opposes climatism are supporters of big coal and "lobbyists are paid by multinationals to produce this stuff". In my case this is very easy to refute. Just look at what I have said and written and check that against policies supported by coal industry lobbyists such as the Queensland Resources Council (QRC).

(It can be found here:  ).

The QRC people ARE paid to promote the views of the coal industry – I am not. They promote three key policy pillars – a global agreement to ration and tax carbon, emissions permit trading, and subsidies for green power.

Never have I or the Carbon Sense Coalition ever supported any of these shaky pillars. We have repeatedly urged rejection of the Kyoto agreement; we have been consistent critics of emissions trading and the carbon tax; and we oppose money wasted in subsidising green energy toys and silly schemes like Carbon Capture and Burial.

Other superficial critics gleefully report that anything I say is merely promoting my vested interests in Stanmore Coal, a small Australian owned and managed explorer in which I hold shares. The reverse is true – Stanmore will be less harmed by the carbon tax than many other Australian businesses and may even derive some benefits. Stanmore's main asset is an open cut thermal coal deposit planning to export coal, probably to Asia for power generation. The carbon tax in Australia will fall more heavily on gassy underground coal mines and will also drive our power intensive industries overseas, probably to Asia, thus increasing Asian demand for coal from projects such as Stanmore.

Naturally the snipers never reveal my long and continuing interest and experience in pasture management, grassland conservation, sustainable soils and the carbon cycle. I do not condone pollution or environmental degradation.

Every Australian has a vested interest in the outcome of this suicidal war on carbon – some will get unearned benefits, most will be lumbered with hidden costs. So instead of smearing, name calling and name dropping, it's time for the green side to put up some relevant facts and logical arguments.

Or find a real problem to solve.

Solving Three Problems

We have three problems in Queensland, all created or made worse by the federal government.

Firstly, Canberra is about to drain our savings down the Green Hole using the Gillard carbon tax.

Secondly, the Greens want to close every coal mine, promising that non-existent Green power plants will keep the lights on.

Thirdly, orchardists and small towns are besieged by plagues of flying, squealing fruit bats which are protected by Canberra.

Here is the solution to all three problems.

Use Canberra's carbon tax receipts to build a wall of wind turbines around every orchard and town plagued by flying foxes.

Three problems solved.

We get our carbon tax money invested back into Queensland, Greens get their sacred green windmills built, and the scything blades slice up the invading foxes (humanely of course).

But be sure to stock up on candles for when the wind does not blow, and ear plugs for when it does.

Green Agenda Collapsing

The European Union’s ambitious low carbon plan collapsed yesterday when Poland vetoed plans to reduce greenhouse gas emissions drastically after 2020. If the Europeans can’t agree on a climate plan, the prospect that the rest of the world can agree is less than zero. Every dime spent by climate activists on this goal was wasted. Every white paper on the subject was a folly. Every global conference was a grotesque and pointless boondoggle. Every pundit who supported this agenda was blowing smoke and every politician who endorsed it was either an idiot or a demagogue — or both.
Walter Russell Mead

Flogging a Dead Horse

Back in July 2009, when Penny Wong’s Ration and Tax Scheme was the talk of the town, “Carbon Sense” made a forecast:
“The aging galloper “Ration-N-Tax” from the Wong stable is knackered.

“Anyone with any economic or political nous knows that the carbon cap proposals are neither politically nor economically possible in Australia or the USA. No electorate in the western world will sit by to see their standard of living reduced until their carbon emissions per capita are equal to those of India or China while they transfer their businesses and technology to these growing industrial giants of Asia.

“From now on, those pushing the RAT Scheme are flogging a dead horse. Public opinion is changing swiftly and any time soon even Malcolm Turnbull will switch his bets.

“But the canny handlers anticipated this result and have another nag saddled and ready.”

Read on:

However the backers have overloaded “Carbon Tax” and he is already having trouble getting traction. Larry Pickering captured the scene on the Molonglo Training Circuit recently:
Larry Pickering

Wind power – more accurately wind impotence, since turbines operate at just 24 per cent of capacity – is the curse of Scotland. One of the most beautiful landscapes in Europe has been brutally ravaged, families have been driven into fuel poverty, pensioners have been presented with the lethal dilemma “heat or eat” – all to appease the neurotic prejudices of global warming fanatics.
Gerald Warner, Scotland on Sunday 11/3/12

Two Green Prophets Recant

Benny Peiser in Ccnet brings news of two leaders of Climatism who have suddenly recanted.

Fritz Vahrenholt was the best-known environmentalist in the German Social Democratic Party (SPD). Now, even Fritz Vahrenholt no longer believes in the predictions of global warming:

"Until two years ago," he says, "I believed the IPCC and represented its recommendations in my lectures." Doubts came to him when he was a reviewer of the IPCC report on renewable energies. "I discovered many errors and asked myself if the other IPCC reports were similarly inadequate."

At the same time, the fact that, contrary to the predictions, the average global temperature has not risen for more than a decade made him ponder. Vahrenholt wondered if man-made greenhouse gases are really the most important factor in the climate system. After talking with dozens of scientists, he considers the influence of the sun to be underestimated. Finally, Vahrenholt cast doubt that warming is fundamentally bad for people and nature.

James Lovelock, the maverick scientist who became a guru to the environmental movement with his “Gaia” theory of the Earth as a single organism, has admitted to being “alarmist” about climate change and says other environmental commentators, such as Al Gore, were too.

The Last Word

The war on carbon is moving into a new phase, getting nastier and less democratic as the alarmists get cornered.

They have lost the debate on the science of global warming, their leaders are wobbling, the weather is refusing to obey their computer models and the economic damage and dislocation caused by their massive meddling in the energy markets is becoming obvious to all. Most western governments are broke and their only real source of new funds is to claw back green energy subsidies.

But they fear retribution from an aroused electorate. Their only way to stay in power is to bribe the voters again with new handouts.

“Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else.”
 Kit Pharo

The government media apparatus and their apologists will now try to dampen debate on the carbon tax. They want the whole tax and handout apparatus to be so ingrained that the next government will be too scared to repeal it.

But it must be repealed. The whole lot.
Combine it with a few real reforms like abolition of income tax and devolution of much of the federal apparatus back to the states. It is becoming too late for tinkering, we need real reform. We have had our test of centralism and it has clearly failed. Let's try repeal and decentralisation for a change.

However the hidden agenda is in the opposite direction. They aim to take decisions out of the hands of locals, handing over more and more power to bureaucratic bodies, "independent" commissions and organs of the United Nations. Anti-industry, anti-democratic, anti-west forces are already planning this. They meet in Rio in June. Having failed in open debate they now will seek to close debate and make decisions far from our control and oversight.

The global warming gambit has failed – the new buzz word is "sustainable development". They will find this too is a weak reed – almost none of the government energy policies are sustainable, so we will be turning their own sustainability searchlight back in their faces.

According to stunning U.N. documents examined by Fox News, the upcoming United Nations environmental conference on sustainable development will consider a breath-taking array of carbon taxes, transfers of trillions of dollars from wealthy countries to poor ones, and new spending programs to guarantee that populations around the world are protected from the effects of the very programs the world organization wants to implement.

The main goal of the much-touted, Rio + 20 United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development, scheduled to be held in Brazil from June 20-23, is to make dramatic and enormously expensive changes in the way that the world does nearly everything—or, as one of the documents puts it, "a fundamental shift in the way we think and act."


Please keep the debate alive by passing this on. We need to shine the light into all the dark corners.

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Viv Forbes
Rosevale    Qld    4340
Phone 0754 640 533

“Carbon Sense” is a newsletter produced by the Carbon Sense Coalition, an Australian based organisation which opposes waste of resources, opposes pollution, and promotes the rational and sustainable use of carbon energy and carbon food.

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Is the science settled?

After last night's programme - I Can Change Your Mind About Climate -previously discussed in these pages under the heading

Will you change your mind about Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW)?

the UK Guardian published a column "TV show giving voice to climate sceptics is skewing evidence, scientists say." Are these the scientists who have been fudging the data, the scientists who are trying to hide the decline? 

The sub heading for the Guardian says "Australian documentary gives 'misleading impression that the debate on the science of climate change is not settled."'

If the science is settled, let's stop funding the alarmist scientists. 

People like the husband and wife scientists Jo Nova and David Evans are dismissed by the Guardian as "an influential climate sceptic blogger and her husband, former carbon modeller, David Evans..." Jo's influential blog can be found HERE and David Evans, to the best of my knowledge, is still climate modelling and has more degrees than I have had hot breakfasts this year.

Professor of Astrophysics at the University of NSW, Michael Ashley is quoted as saying: "People watch a programme like this and they think there's a scientific debate. It's a lose, lose situation for climate scientists." 

The trouble is all the alarmist scientists are afraid to have a debate. Last night's programme should have had a debate between the alarmist scientists and some sceptical scientists like Tim Ball, Richard Lindzen, Bob Carter, Ian Plimer.

The Guardian also mistakenly says "Australians are the biggest carbon polluters per head of population in the developed world..." Australia is not the biggest per head emitter of carbon (dioxide) and more importantly, carbon dioxide is a vital-to-life gas and is NOT pollution.