Tuesday, 10 May 2011

Dr Karl Kruszelnicki and Flat Earth

Dr Karl Kruszelnicki on 2UE Sat 7/5/11 said every scientific body in the world believes in the hypothesis that man-made CO2 emissions cause runaway global warming. 

Actually Dr Karl said that every scientific body in the world says that "Climate change is real..." Really, Karl, anyone would be an idiot if they didn't believe that "climate change is real" because climate has been changing since time began. You did mean that they believe the hypothesis, didn't you, Karl?

This hypothesis has been falsified more than once. (see http://tiny.cc/ax09l) As Einstein said: 
 No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.”

Dr Karl should remember the old adage: "He who pays the piper, calls the tune."

Garth Paltridge wrote an opinion piece in last week’s Australian (See http://tiny.cc/n97ja.) Garth is a retired atmospheric physicist and has been a chief research scientist at the CSIRO as well as a consultant to the World Meteorological Organisation.  Garth says that the CSIRO, the BoM and the Australian Academy of Science have all been bought by successive Australian Governments. The CSIRO has suppressed a dissenting opinion by Clive Spash. Clive then resigned (see http://tiny.cc/33eou)

In like manner, Ferenc Miskolczi resigned from NASA. Some years ago this Hungarian physicist, then working for NASA, discovered a flaw in how those constructing the IPCC climate models deal with the issue of the atmosphere’s boundary conditions. In order to progress this research Dr Miskolczi eventually resigned from NASA claiming his supervisors at NASA tried to suppress discussion and publication of his findings. His peer-reviewed papers can be found here and here.

Fellow Hungarian and friend Dr. Miklos Zagoni has also published "CO2 cannot cause anymore Global Warming.”

Until their research proved it flawed, both Ferenc and Miklos were firm believers in the AGW hypothesis: as was Doctor David Evans.

From 1999 to 2005, David Evans was working for the Australian Greenhouse Office (Later to be called the Dept. of Climate Change) when he saw the light. Recently, David said:

The debate about global warming has reached ridiculous proportions and is full of micro thin half-truths and misunderstandings. I am a scientist who was on the carbon gravy train, understands the evidence,  was once an alarmist, but am now a sceptic. Watching this issue unfold has been amusing but, lately, worrying. This issue is tearing society apart, making fools and liars out of our politicians.

The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s. But the gravy train was too big, with too many jobs, industries, trading profits, political careers, and the possibility of world government and total control riding on the outcome. So rather than admit they were wrong, the governments, and their tame climate scientists, now cheat and lie outrageously to maintain the fiction that carbon dioxide is a dangerous pollutant.

The Royal Society is the oldest scientific body in the world and is the UK’s premier scientific body. Karl should check with the Royal Society if he thinks that every scientific organization in the world believes the falsified hypothesis. The Royal Society was on board when a number of the members said that their opinions weren’t being represented. The Royal Society then issued a new guide to climate change that said that it was impossible to know for sure how the Earth's climate will change in the future nor what the possible effects may be. See here and here.


Once, the prevailing scientific thought was that the world was flat and, as David said in comments, .and once the prevailing thought was that the Earth was the centre of the solar system.


Dr Karl has been at it again:
The interview was spread out over four hours, so I've split it into several posts, which will appear over the next few days. In this first one you can hear Naomi Oreskes trying to link floods in Australia and the UK and Pakistan to global warming and Dr Karl saying that Australia is going to get drier. The apparent contradiction between their positions seems to have been lost on them.

Listen as Dr Karl says: "The last winter was unseasonably cold...Some insignificant areas like the USA and Europe cooling down a bit..."

Picking away at Karl's "Every scientific body in the world...."

What about the American Meteorogical Society, Karl?
The society has officially taken a position many of us AMS members do not agree with. We believe that humans are having little or no significant influence on the global climate and that the many Global Circulation Climate Model (GCMs) results and the four IPCC reports do not realistically give accurate future projections. To take this position which so many of its members do not necessarily agree with shows that the AMS is following more of a political than a scientific agenda.(More HERE.)

Just one more nail in the every scientific body B/s.


  1. "Once, the prevailing scientific though was that the world was flat."

    ..and once the prevailing thought was that the Earth was the centre of the solar system.

  2. sorry to link karl to point out a flaw in your document, but scientific thought has always been certain that the world was round. even the egyptians and the romans knew this. http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/07/22/2633359.htm

  3. Brian Johnson Farnham UK15 March 2012 at 23:17

    Dr Karl appears weekly [Wednesday morning] on BBC Radio 5 Live between 3:00and 4:00am on Rhod Sharp's" Up All Night" programme.

    I have noticed that Dr Karl rarely answers the questions asked and sometimes makes huge mistakes. Isn't it time the BBC cut the UK -Aussie link?
    Oh no, we must be presented with AGW bias and never the alternate view. Another BBC failure along with all the Richard Black propaganda items.

  4. Karl is speaking at the Harbord diggers tonight (6 June 7pm). If anyone is going, please ask this idiot what he claims the EVIDENCE for man caused global warming is supposed to be.

  5. See my site, pjcarson2015.wordpress.com
    for actual quantitative evidence that changing CO2 levels above ca 150ppm can cause NO climate change.

  6. Classic denier argument myths:
    Climate has been changing since time began - mankind is changing those highs and lows and frequencies to be more radical
    CO2 occurs naturally and man-made emissions is tiny by comparison - natural CO2 emission is balanced by natural absorption. Man-made emissions are EXTRA emissions and are not reduced by mankind. Mankind has no control over natural emissions.
    Water vapour is a bigger greenhouse gas - also a natural occurrence, which increases with heat
    CO2 is a plant fertiliser - CO2 is actually a stimulant and this fluffy idea would be good if we weren't decimating the refrigerators and carbon sinks of the world, equatorial rainforests by 50 percent, and at the same time creating more heat sinks in urban development.
    Climate change is a scam by governments and data is doctored to maintain funding - a conspiracy theory designed to discredit and divert attention from the issue. Many industrial polluters employ 'Environmental' Consultants and internet trolls to discredit global warming.
    CO2 is irrelevant - it is a measurable quantity, unlike the heat mankind pumps into the atmosphere from industry, power stations and internal combustion engines.
    CO2 is insignificant at 4 percent (usually quoted at a lower rate of 2 percent) - More than 65 percent of CFC emissions are man-made. More than 18 percent of methane emissions are man-made.
    We are experiencing a mini-ice age - yeah that's why we are setting record temperatures. March 2015, during a period of solar minimum, Queensland had its warmest March on record, observing its largest positive anomalies on record for each of maximum (+2.88 °C), minimum (+1.62 °C) and mean temperatures (+2.25 °C). The previous maximum temperature record for Queensland was +2.67 °C, set in 1915.'
    'Nationally, maximum temperatures were 1.12 °C above average, and minimum temperatures were 0.56 °C above average.'

    For more popular excuses/denier myths, including
    There is no consensus
    It's cooling
    Models are unreliable
    Temp record is unreliable
    Animals and plants can adapt
    It hasn't warmed since 1998
    Antarctica is gaining ice
    go to

  7. "What about the American Meteorogical Society, Karl?"

    The quote you added is not from the AMS.


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