Tuesday, 27 October 2009

Why the ETS is useless - 2

Not only do we, the Climate Sceptics Party think the ETS is useless, so also do members of the three major parties. Barnaby Joyce, Ron Boswell and other Nats have expressed their opinion, quite a few Labor parliamentarians also realise that the whole thing is a scam but are constrained by their party. I was at a meeting last week with Liberal Member for Tangey, Dennis Jensen, who gave his opinion of this rotten tax and now, we have Cory Bernardi plainly telling us why the ETS is useless.

Sunday, 11 October 2009

Puppets and Pay-offs in Carbonia”.

11 October 2009
“Puppets and Pay-offs in Carbonia”.

The Carbon Sense Coalition today claimed that Malcolm Turnbull was wrong to negotiate on the Ration-N-Tax Scheme and the opposition should reject it.

The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said that the backbench were right in rejecting Penny Wong’s flawed legislation – they are reflecting the interests of the real Australia outside the urban greens and the Big Business Councils.

“Even if a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing and real leaders will explain that clearly.”

He explains:

“Malcolm Turnbull says that business wants the “certainty” of the Ration-N-Tax Scheme. There can be no certainty on the amount of damage a Ration-N-Tax Scheme will do to jobs and industry. The only certainty is that it will not affect the climate. The only way to get a “certain” outcome is to reject this bill entirely.

“Those calling for “certainty” are mainly the voices of vested interests.

“For example, the “Carbon Market Expo” to be held soon on the Gold Coast boasts that ‘more than 70 businesses will have exhibits’. They include carbon bankers, brokers, accountants, auditors, asset managers, investment managers, consultants, controllers, certifiers, verifiers and registries; emissions trading, carbon offsets and carbon rewards groups; forest service and green fleet firms; recruitment, R&D and PR advisers; infrastructure and engineering contractors; University academics and of course all the well travelled bureaucrats from the federal, state and local “climate smart” departments.

“Similar lobbies service the alternative energy and carbon sequestration “businesses”.

“Despite their totally mercenary aims, these people paint visions of “Carbonia”. This is a mystic land where only green carbon is permitted to exist, where nymphs and gnomes skip through sylvan forests of indigenous vegetation, where gentle breezes and warm showers are never disturbed by snow storms or heat waves, where floods, droughts and bushfires are unknown, and where a planned economic depression has ensured there are no nasty farms, factories, mines or motor engines.

“None of these green “businesses” could exist without taxes on real industries using carbon fuels - food, travel, electricity, steel, cement, chemicals and manufactured goods. Increased costs for consumers of these essentials are certain. Is this the “certainty” the Liberals are promoting?

“Let’s turn a spotlight onto the puppets in Parliament.

“The Labor Party dances to the fiddles and flutes of the green fairies, and their expected pay-off is election preference deals. The Liberals dance to the big bass drums of business who seek “exemptions”.

“Who cares that farmers are leaving the land in droves, fishermen are leaving the sea and factories are migrating to China?

“Senator Wong’s Ration-N-Tax Scheme must be rejected.”

Viv Forbes
MS 23, Rosewood Qld 4340 Australia
Phone 0754 640 533

Monday, 5 October 2009

Hurrah! Consensus! Less Tax!

Professor Carter will address a meeting at Newcastle's South's Leagues Club on 22/10/09 at 1pm,

Australian Global Warming Policy:
Sleepwalking to Disaster

Emissions trading will hurt the poor, damage the environment, invites fraud and is economically irresponsible.

Professor Carter says: "Emissions trading will hurt the poor, damage the environment, invites fraud and is economically irresponsible."

Well, there's another fraud! The three Moistketeers, Rudd, Wong and Sackett tell us that there is consensus on climate change (their deceptive term for man-made global warming.)

If there is consensus, there's no need for more scientific funding for global warming projects!. So, let's ask them to pull any global warming research or experimental money out of the budget.

How about that, Aruddis, Penwos and Sackethos?

“Man-made Global Warming does not Exist”.

Viv Forbes
5 October 2009

The truth is emerging – there is not a scrap of evidence that man-made carbon dioxide causes global warming. The IPCC has been devious and incompetent. Australia should boycott all further IPCC meetings and withhold future funding.

A mere 20,000 years ago, massive ice sheets covered much of the earth. The sparse population led a cold hungry existence.

Then, just 12,000 years ago, and there was dramatic natural global warming - ice sheets melted, sea levels rose and the warming seas expelled carbon dioxide. The warmth and increased carbon dioxide plant food in the atmosphere encouraged the spread of grasslands, forests and animal and human populations over lands once covered by thick, barren sheets of ice.

None of these dramatic changes were caused by emissions from the camp fires of the Cave Men.

Since then earth has experienced see-saw heating and cooling. The most recent warming phase started at the depth of the Little Ice Age about 300 years ago. There were no coal-burning steam engines, no oil-burning combustion engines and no cement plants, but still the planet warmed up.

See: http://carbon-sense.com/2009/10/03/climate-always-changing/

Climate fluctuations continue in recent times, but not in step with man’s carbon dioxide emissions.

When industry declined in the Great Depression of the 1930s, CO2 emissions fell but temperatures rose to a peak.

Then during the immediate post war boom in industry, emissions soared but temperatures fell and there were fears of a new ice age starting.

Now, since the start of the new century, with emissions from China and India growing strongly, world temperatures are again steady or falling.

The message is there for those prepared to read – man’s production of carbon dioxide does not control world temperature.

See: http://carbon-sense.com/2009/09/19/temp-vs-co2/

In Australia, many long term temperature records show that for the last century rural temperatures were stable or falling, but temperatures recorded in the big cities show slight warming. There is ZERO global warming of the atmosphere, just a bit of urban heating near big cities. This heating is caused, not by carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, but by heat generated from increasing urban human activities – heaters, appliances, air-conditioners, cars, trains, planes, concrete and bitumen all pumping new heat into the air. And the temperature measuring spots that were once in bushy outer suburbs are now surrounded by cars, concrete and airports.

This urban heat causes hot air to rise, may generate a storm or two, and the heat is lost harmlessly to space.

Here is a picture of “global warming” in Winton, outback Queensland:

For more records from rural Australia, and one for Sydney see:

For the non-warming evident in the longest continuous temperature record in the world, see:

For the IPCC and its local lap-dog, the CSIRO, to continue promoting the man- made global warming scare in the face of clear contrary evidence is grossly improper and should be subject to independent review.

For a fuller report on the dishonesty and incompetence of the IPCC see:

Man-made global warming does not exist. Both the IPCC and the CSIRO should be challenged to justify their reckless and baseless climate scare-mongering.

Viv Forbes

The ETS - a consumption tax on everything

I was thinking the other day about the ETS. In case you don't know, it stands for Emissions Trading System - although it has been called, inter alia, Extra Tax Syphoning. It's meant to be the action section of the CPRS. So what's CPRS, you say?

Well, it's the highly deceptively named Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme. So, why deceptive, you say? Well, the carbon refered to is actually Carbon Dioxide - CO2.

Carbon is used deceptively to make you think of black sooty coal. Do you know that Diamonds are almost pure carbon. Do you know that CO2 is colourless, tasteless and vitally essential to life? Why do the Newspapers and the TV show water vapour or steam coming from cooling towers when the talk about CO2 pollution?

So pollution?

Well, what is atmospheric pollution? From the NSW Government Department of Health: Air pollution occurs when the air is affected by chemicals or particles that are not normally present and have the potential to affect health.

Carbon Dioxide is definitely normally present in air. As to the potential to affect health, well. yes, it does, but beneficially.

I was thinking: "Do these clowns think?" Does Malcolm Turnbull think? Does Penny Wong think?
Even if you accept the "CO2 causes global warming" hypothesis; how can a tax on Carbon Dioxide reduce atmospheric CO2.

In the old days, budget day headlines were inevitably "Beer UP! Cigs UP!"

However, some clever pollies decided to CPI the tax on alcohol and tobacco and so, every three months there is a sneaky tax grab and you go to the lifeline sorry grog shop and find that there has been a hike in your favourite tipple. You shrug and buy it! Smokers must find the same thing.

I normally buy quality wines - 10 years ago at $9 a bottle! and to give you an idea, here's what's happen to my quality wine.

Date CPI Price
Mar-99 121.8 $9
Mar-00 125.2 $9.25
Mar-01 132.7 $9.81
Mar-02 136.6 $10.09
Mar-03 141.3 $10.44
Mar-04 144.1 $10.65
Mar-05 147.5 $10.90
Mar-06 151.9 $11.22
Mar-07 155.6 $11.50
Mar-08 162.2 $11.99
Mar-09 166.2 $12.28

So, I still buy my tipple. Why wIll the ETS - a consumption tax on almost everything - reduce CO2 emissions?

The alcopops tax farce proved that the tax did little to reduce usage - just made some people smarter - a bottle of vodka and a bottle of Fanta - instant alcopop!

Even if you believe in AGW, why push a tax?